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This woman says that she was abducted by beings from another planet and taken on board their

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spaceship where she experienced a bizarre, unforgettable journey in time and space.

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Now what makes her story credible is the work that a team of UFO researchers, headed by

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this man, did to document the incident.

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Now the results of their findings are recorded in this fascinating book, The Andreessen Affair,

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and you please welcome Betty Andreessen and Raymond E. Fowler.

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Good afternoon.

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I'm television.

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May I call you Betty?

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Yes, sir.

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Well, you're up against the time element that it will be difficult for you to commence

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this whole experiment.

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Could you briefly tell us what just happened?

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Well, it was evening and some of the lights went out of my home and a red eye of also

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the lights came from the pantry window.

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Suddenly there were five beings in my home.

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One went over to the side, and the other did not see them.

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Then the other four and I went into the living room where my family was placed in a state of

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suspended animation and for a shot through the time my daughter Betty was taken out to

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show me that my family was alright.

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Then there I was taken out into the kitchen again and meanwhile my father was off to the

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side in the pantry area with one of the beings.

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He too was placed in a state of suspended animation.

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I was taken out into the backyard and I was taken aboard the aircraft and I was given extensive

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examination, brought to a strange place, and then we came home.

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What do you mean by that?

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It's a strange place.

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Yes, I was taken aboard the aircraft and they took me to different rooms and put me to different

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rooms and they took me into this strange place where there was a red atmosphere and a

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certain green atmosphere.

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Did you maintain consciousness through all of this experience?

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Yes, I did.

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Did they have to be communicated with you?

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Through medicine to the alphabet.

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The voice was English and had a slight foreign accent to it.

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They left a small blue book with you.

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Yes.

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Describe that.

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It was a very thin book. It had approximately 40 pages to it.

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First three pages were very, very bright, almost appeared like light.

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There were different images.

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There were different fondness, pictures of the craft, scones writing.

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There were numbers.

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Did you see this blue book, Mr. Pouls?

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Margie, I had it for 10 days.

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They told us you could keep it for 10 days.

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It disappeared. Of course, we didn't hear about the case until 1977 in that student

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place.

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Did it disappear as they said in 10 days?

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Yes, 10 days.

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Just suddenly it wasn't there, right?

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Yes, it was there.

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Now a bust was made from the description of the figures.

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This was given to me as a gift from a person in the clinic.

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It's interesting.

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I'm very attractive looking at it.

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How tall are they?

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They were about four feet tall.

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They had cat-like eyes, very large eyes.

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They had only three fingers on each hand.

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Anything to resemble a farmer, were they all like that?

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Yes, one was a little thicker than the other two.

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We have some diagrams which show what the spaceship looked like.

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Can we look at those?

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Let's go up to this camera.

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Okay.

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This is a side view here.

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Are we looking here?

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Yes.

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These are the bottom.

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When I was taking outside, the leader, whose name was Codd Gough, made the bottom transparent

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so I was able to see these things.

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These were glass balls.

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They were like puff crystals.

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These arms were aluminum-type and had like rings around them.

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These two arms stretched out and this was a glass-like wheel, cut wheel.

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It revolved around an inner-tube-type thing.

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On the very top, with another glass wheel, that was very, very bright.

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It sent off a lot of light from it.

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Are these floor levels that we're looking at here?

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Yes.

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What areas did you travel to?

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I was thinking...

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You take your walk through the clouds?

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Yes.

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I believe there's someone who's...

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...spectacular.

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Can you see this on camera while you're finding out the...

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I'm going to get it for a little bit here and give it up.

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Okay, go ahead.

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I was facing down here and then I was brought up the first few stairs into an upper room

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and I was in there noticing many different things and then they took me down to an elevator.

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I was just like, to an elevator in each of these rooms where I was...

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The elevator went down, is that the idea?

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Yes.

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There was a court under a light cleansing device and I was taken into this...

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How did you know it was a cleansing device?

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Well, they had told me that I was being cleansed and it's bright light came down and enveloped me.

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The mirror was taken into this tube of light and I was to change into a element that was provided from the...

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The mirror was brought into the examinee room and on this tube I was under the examination that they put me through.

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It's like a medical examination in any way?

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In the first one was measurement for life.

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The second one day I saw the needle in my left nostril and both tubes in the membrane which was very, very painful.

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The needle came forth and put his hand on my head and he made some of the pain.

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And he put his hand on your head and it relieved the pain?

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He released some of the pain, yes. It was still pain-present.

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When he pulled the needle out of my nose there was a tiny baby leg object on the end with tiny little wire-like whiskers.

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And there were eight elements to do.

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The second needle came out of my nose and I felt the vibration and again that was very painful.

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And the needle came forth and put his hand on my forehead and relieved me of some of the pain.

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Put your hand on your forehead and relieved the pain in your head?

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Yes.

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And they stopped after the side and started discussing that they wanted to do more tests.

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And I knew they were saying this and the leader was objecting to this when the others were insisting.

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And I screamed I didn't want any more tests and took a bit of a phone call with me and he came over and took it out.

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And he told me just a few moments more.

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And then a large eye-like device came out of the bone ceiling and came out of my stomach and spanned my whole body.

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And from there that was the end of the test.

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And now you've painted eight pictures which describe what everything looked like.

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Can we see those pictures?

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What is the being kind of like through the door?

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And it came so that there was like a mist in back of them as if there was another slot.

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Is that what the uniforms look like?

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Yes. It was a wool color.

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It looked to it with a sparkly, almost like sandpaper, sparkles and light hits it.

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And that's been kind of through the door.

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Here they are in the living room and we are exchanging the books.

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And the resumes are still in the side window.

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There's always a slot in back of the leader and I couldn't understand what's happening.

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It was taller than the other three.

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Yes, it was. It was taller.

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I couldn't understand why I kept seeing that slot in the back but that was the place where I was going to have to sit.

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And so they took me out into the yard and here he is making the bottom of the craft transparent and showing me the different things.

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I asked him questions but he only told me as much as he wanted to tell me.

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Here they were changed into an aluminum type suit that this had been shined when I was a kid.

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Where did they change? When they got aboard the craft?

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Yes. It needs to have more of this when I first saw it in these uniforms.

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Here you see I am being examined and the different utensils and things that were used during the summer.

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Is that the standing machine above you there?

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Yes. It was like an eye.

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A luxury machine there.

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After the left is a sand-like apparatus.

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This is when I was brought into the room housing eight glass-like chairs.

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What is that in front of you?

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Is that a desk or what?

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No, that is a chair that encompassed me.

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My head came down and closed around me and great liquid filled the chair.

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They had...

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Liquid?

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Yes. Which spilled around my body.

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And they gave me some red medicine or some red stuff to drink and it served me.

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This is a picture of the beams that were in the red atmosphere. Very strange.

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They had two stocks moved independently.

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The eyes just could look anywhere.

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This is a picture of my father in the back of the wall in the pantry in a state of suspended automation.

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The beam holding a white light that made him shuffle out of the area.

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Yet he was not conscious of what was going on.

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Did any of your family remember any of this?

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My father remembered sitting them when they turned out of their craft into the house.

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And then they were seeing them hopping.

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And he thought it was children's but then how did they get in the costume?

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Is that the way they get?

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Yes.

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When they were outside the craft, inside the craft they glided very easily.

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They don't walk that way?

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No.

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In front of the other one?

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No.

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And my daughter also.

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How do you remember?

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When she was taken out of the family room animation for a few moments for me to see that my family was alive.

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You'll have more on this story.

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Jenny, follow these messages.

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But we've got a story.

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We're skeptical when you first heard about it.

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I must admit that I was.

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And that's why I persuaded our local investigators to have nothing to do with this woman.

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But they persisted and as directors and investigations for the Mutual UFO Network and a Dining in Massachusetts,

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I often looked over the investigations being carried on by the Massachusetts team.

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And after an initial character reference check was made indicating that she seemed to be a very reliable person,

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I became a member of a five-million team consisting of an aerospace engineer, a solar physicist,

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and other people with technical backgrounds.

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And performed a character reference check myself.

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What are your credentials as an investigator?

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Well, I served as an early warning coordinator with the United States Air Force,

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sponsored the University of Colorado project.

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I've been advised that tonight, yes, I presently am with Dr. Hrenick's Center for UFO Studies

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and Director of Investigations on the Board of Directors for an International Group

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called the Mutual UFO Network.

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I think that the character reference check,

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I believe check from the neighbors, lawyers, ministers, etc.

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We gave her a true extensive light-effective test,

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I heard by her daughters to establish whether or not they were trying to perpetrate clever hopes.

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And they passed the test with flying colors.

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The next question that came to mind was, was she a psychotic?

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And we better sit down with a psychiatrist who showed us,

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and showed her that she was not a psychotic.

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That she really believed in the confidence,

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she couldn't account for the stimulus that was outside of his expertise.

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And of course we used 14 hypnotic regression sessions to bring out the immediate portion.

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In very vivid detail, she relived it.

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She just didn't talk about it much use today.

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She was saying, were there any variations?

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No, this was the interesting thing to me.

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The hypnotist could bring her back to relive a second over again.

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It was just like winding back a tape recorder.

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Watching Becky, for example, relive it as an 11-year-old was fascinating,

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because you had a girl in her 20s sitting there,

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and the hypnotist was here using the vocabulary of an 11-year-old girl

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describing the clay creaches talking to money.

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It was the same fear and everything that she had experienced then.

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It was a fascinating thing to be part of.

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What do you suppose, buddy, that you were singled out?

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We have an established for everyone listening, where your thumb is also placed.

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I'd be placed in Massachusetts.

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I don't believe that I'm just the only one that's been singled out,

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because they told me that they've had many people avoid their trust,

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and that they have lost information in their mind, and it will come out in time.

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I just don't believe that...

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You lost information into the minds of the people that have been contacted?

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Yes, that he's been contacted.

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Who? Are they friendly people?

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They say that they love me on time, and they want to help the world with their told news.

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Are you satisfied with the investigation?

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Well, I feel as if it's the case.

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They've been giving me different things, writings, and things about what is taking place and happening,

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and these are all being checked through.

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Is that how the technology is certainly superior to the two hours, isn't it?

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I really don't understand the technology.

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Well, even though I actually trashed you, this isn't something more complex than this.

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Of course, interstellar space travel is beyond our technology.

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The distances are so vast, the speed of light seems to be a lot.

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Well, for anyone that seems incredible, I don't talk to astronauts.

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I talk to pilots, and they always say almost the same thing that they'd be chasing,

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and suddenly they just point out for an engine.

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And speeds absolutely unbelievable, you know, climbing speeds.

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Well, they practically burn up jetcraft to stay near them, you know.

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Excuse me, my friend.

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I have a couple questions.

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First of all, in the book I get this impression that from your point of view,

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this is a religious connotation somehow,

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and that from your point of view, that's yet to be decided.

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That's correct.

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You maintain that you think they, whoever they are, are on our side.

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They have positive feelings about mankind.

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Did you mention them breaking in on telephone calls, being very angry?

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Well, they told me.

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You've been monitored, haven't you?

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They told me that there are seven races visiting the Earth,

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and one is detrimental to man.

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You've heard of something that I definitely wanted to hear.

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It's an audio tape of Debbie Underdiff Nilsson.

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She describes the physical examination that these beings gave her.

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Let's listen to this tape, but they're under her closest.

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I'm getting ready for something.

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I'm about to go to the toilet.

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I'm doing something about questions that you're hearing sometimes.

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I'm actually talking about where the story is going.

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That is calling something that we need to look at in order to welcome in the call.

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That's how it's calling.

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I'm hoping that this is the second time in my life.

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Oh, no, no, no, no, I don't like this.

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Oh, no.

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Oh, no.

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I'm feeling moving and thinking about a nice chemical body.

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It's stuck.

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It's not going to take the thing out.

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Thank you.

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I don't want any more tests.

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I'm going to college.

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I'm going to be a medicine expert.

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We'll be back.

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The book is called The Antinous Assailant.

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We'll be right back.